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Post by ironic maiden on Oct 17, 2008 17:00:18 GMT -5
[quote author=sensefille board=tv thread=17 post=4450 time=1224241597I love that episode (who doesn't) and the part you quoted. Only Niles and Frasier speak the same language. Reminds me of this part in Frasier's Curse: Daphne: Am I glad you're home. Martin: What's wrong? Daphne: Dr. Crane! Ever since he came back from his job interview he seemed awfully depressed. In fact, he's as bad as I've ever seen him! Niles: Oh, I guess it didn't go well. Daphne: I gather not. He mumbled something about it being worse than the Dresden premiere of Schumann's Second Symphony. Niles: And you left him alone?! Ooh I just love Niles' last line here and I'm hearing the way David says this right now! ;D Thank you for reminding me of this. It gets such laughs in our house especially because the bit about it being worse than the Dresden premiere of Schumann's Second Symphony is the kind of thing my son would say - no - really! Frasier's a bit of a documentary in our house as I've probably said before. WARNING OFF TOPIC I'll tell you sometime about my son declaring that ' Everbody knows Stravinsky's Rite of Spring was forshadowing rock music!' (It caused a riot on it's premiere btw). When he said this I immediately imagined a Monty Python-type sketch. There would be two women in headscarfs and long coats in a corner shop in England circa 1970 - you know - Graham Chapman and Terry Jones in drag - saying something like this, Terry Jones: "Ooh, that Stravinsky and his Rite of Spring - foreshadowing rock music he was, naughty boy!" Graham Chapman: "Ooh I know dear! Thought he could pull the wool over our eyes - guitar riffs all over the place!" [/quote] I can envision that sketch perfectly! It's exactly something Monty Python would do.
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Post by rose on Oct 18, 2008 15:23:31 GMT -5
haha rofl totally Monty Python!!!very good idea ,muffin!
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Post by louise on Oct 18, 2008 16:34:03 GMT -5
haha rofl totally Monty Python!!!very good idea ,muffin! Thanks Rose!
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Post by ironic maiden on Oct 19, 2008 17:03:19 GMT -5
I watched Life of the Party this weekend. Loved watching Frasier and Niles chase after the same woman and Martin try to return to his "Marty Party" days.
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Post by rose on Oct 26, 2008 17:16:58 GMT -5
Just watched the first 3 episodes of the 6th season.I've seen them so many times on TV but I still love 'em.I just adore "Dial M for Martin"^^it's hilarious and oh lord...David!*sighs*I don't know why but I was really craving "Frasier"lol I think that's how you know when you're addicted.Haven't watched any "Frasier"for like ages and now I have to stop myself from watching the whole season in one go!lol I can't wait till I reach the end of season 6 either coz well...e.g. "Visions of Daphne"which is just wonderful and makes me cry so much and yeah...Frasier rocks!
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Post by Jules on Oct 28, 2008 20:19:51 GMT -5
ATDRAWTS - though I seemed to see it differently this time.
Does anyone else think Niles and Daphne were actually behaving really badly, and the writers' attempts to justify them by demonising Mel are inappropriate? It seems kinda selfish and childish the way Daphne whines about her misfortunes and expresses almost no remorse for what she has done to Mel.
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Post by lemur on Oct 29, 2008 7:24:49 GMT -5
ATDRAWTS - though I seemed to see it differently this time. Does anyone else think Niles and Daphne were actually behaving really badly, and the writers' attempts to justify them by demonising Mel are inappropriate? It seems kinda selfish and childish the way Daphne whines about her misfortunes and expresses almost no remorse for what she has done to Mel. Yeah, I agree. Even if she was snippy and manipulative, she was still a human being who loved Niles and who Niles was supposed to love. I understand they needed to write her out hastily but it was too blunt.
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Post by louise on Oct 29, 2008 8:35:32 GMT -5
ATDRAWTS - though I seemed to see it differently this time. Does anyone else think Niles and Daphne were actually behaving really badly, and the writers' attempts to justify them by demonising Mel are inappropriate? It seems kinda selfish and childish the way Daphne whines about her misfortunes and expresses almost no remorse for what she has done to Mel. Yeah, I agree. Even if she was snippy and manipulative, she was still a human being who loved Niles and who Niles was supposed to love. I understand they needed to write her out hastily but it was too blunt. Oh yes we can see this episode completely differently if we look at it with detachment. In our delight at Niles and Daphne finally getting together we overlook the flaws and I think the writers were banking on that. I still do adore this episode, but I tend to look at it with 'love goggles'. There is that poignant, beautifully acted little moment at the 'wedding reception' when Niles listens to Mel talking about the honeymoon they would have taken (I thought David and Jane Adams were very good together). This aspect could have been developed further. I know this is a sitcom, and the writers were under pressure to get rid of Mel, but in a show of this quality should we expect a bit more truth? She was treated very shabbily, and that seems to be ok because Mel is a bitch and Maris mark two. Daphne is made to look pretty heartless where Mel is concerned. Not my idea of the 'goddess' Niles had pined for all these years. It's almost as if Daphne is talking about Maris rather than Mel. Still, I can put this to the back of my mind and watch the scene with Niles and Daphne at dinner on the rooftop in a loop...*sighs*.
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Post by ironic maiden on Oct 29, 2008 16:07:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. Even if she was snippy and manipulative, she was still a human being who loved Niles and who Niles was supposed to love. I understand they needed to write her out hastily but it was too blunt. Oh yes we can see this episode completely differently if we look at it with detachment. In our delight at Niles and Daphne finally getting together we overlook the flaws and I think the writers were banking on that. I still do adore this episode, but I tend to look at it with 'love goggles'. There is that poignant, beautifully acted little moment at the 'wedding reception' when Niles listens to Mel talking about the honeymoon they would have taken (I thought David and Jane Adams were very good together). This aspect could have been developed further. I know this is a sitcom, and the writers were under pressure to get rid of Mel, but in a show of this quality should we expect a bit more truth? She was treated very shabbily, and that seems to be ok because Mel is a bitch and Maris mark two. Daphne is made to look pretty heartless where Mel is concerned. Not my idea of the 'goddess' Niles had pined for all these years. It's almost as if Daphne is talking about Maris rather than Mel. Still, I can put this to the back of my mind and watch the scene with Niles and Daphne at dinner on the rooftop in a loop...*sighs*. Wasn't there a huge turnover in the writing staff between seasons seven and eight? That would explain why the storyline feels spotty and rushed. The new staff probably wanted to deal with the fall-out from season seven as quickly as possible so they could get on with their own ideas. I can't blame them, but the storyline suffers in the process.
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Post by louise on Oct 29, 2008 16:49:40 GMT -5
Oh yes we can see this episode completely differently if we look at it with detachment. In our delight at Niles and Daphne finally getting together we overlook the flaws and I think the writers were banking on that. I still do adore this episode, but I tend to look at it with 'love goggles'. There is that poignant, beautifully acted little moment at the 'wedding reception' when Niles listens to Mel talking about the honeymoon they would have taken (I thought David and Jane Adams were very good together). This aspect could have been developed further. I know this is a sitcom, and the writers were under pressure to get rid of Mel, but in a show of this quality should we expect a bit more truth? She was treated very shabbily, and that seems to be ok because Mel is a bitch and Maris mark two. Daphne is made to look pretty heartless where Mel is concerned. Not my idea of the 'goddess' Niles had pined for all these years. It's almost as if Daphne is talking about Maris rather than Mel. Still, I can put this to the back of my mind and watch the scene with Niles and Daphne at dinner on the rooftop in a loop...*sighs*. Wasn't there a huge turnover in the writing staff between seasons seven and eight? That would explain why the storyline feels spotty and rushed. The new staff probably wanted to deal with the fall-out from season seven as quickly as possible so they could get on with their own ideas. I can't blame them, but the storyline suffers in the process. Yes there was a big turnover in writing staff after season 7. Some of the best writers left.
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